Olds Register – Olds Central

Submit to the Olds Register

If you have an F.E. Olds and Son Trumpet, Cornet or Flugelhorn you would like to add to the Olds Register, submit your information here and we will add it to the list. To see the current information in the Olds Register, it is provided on the Olds Register Database page.

The Olds Register database submission form does not allow for attachments, but if you would also like to send us photos of your instrument which we may include in future updates of the database, please email them to us at admin@olds-central.com

Olds Register database submission form

This form is used to submit an Olds trumpet or cornet manufactured by the F.E. Olds and Son company between 1929 and 1979 into the Olds Register database. If you have an Olds trumpet that was made in Elkhart or anywhere else other than Los Angeles or Fullerton California, then it was made after 1979 and is not for inclusion in this database. This form cannot accept attachments but if you would like to send us photos of your instrument, please email them to admin@olds-central.com The first few responses are mandatory, but most of the responses are voluntary. If you are unsure of an answer, leave it blank and include what you can in the comments and we’ll try to assist resolving any uncertainties. We are asking for your email address to be able to follow up if needed. If you have an update or additional information about an instrument already in the database, feel free to submit a new entry and just be sure to include comments.

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Name *

First

Last

1. Instrument type *

Trumpet
Cornet
Flugelhorn
Other (please specify on next question)

If your instrument is NOT a trumpet, cornet or flugelhorn, tell us more about it here. Most of the remaining survey questions only pertain to trumpet and cornet models, but we may expand the database in the future so we will gather any data you care to submit about your other Olds instruments.

2. Which location is stamped or engraved on the instrument? *

Los Angeles
Fullerton

3. Serial Number (up to a 6 digit number or the very last Olds horns had a serial number beginning with the letter "A") *

4. Model (check one only) *

Ambassador
“The Olds” (first model)
Standard
Special
Super
Studio
Recording
Super Recording
Mendez
Opera
Pinto
Custom High Range (rare)
Clark Terry (rare)
French (uncommon)
Military (model, not just hammered bell)
Radio cornet (very rare)
Aida (Herald)
Professional (key to be provided in later question)
Custom
Flugelhorn
A6 Cornet (rare)
Symphony (model, not bore size- very rare)
Super Star
Other – please include comments

The remaining questions are optional, so if you do not want to provide more detailed information, you can go to the bottom of the form and submit, or you can fill out one or more of the remaining questions if you are able to provide additional information. Either way, THANK YOU for participating!

I’ll provide more information
I’m done and ready to submit (go to the bottom of the form)

5. FINISH of the instrument (most horns with a "gold colored appearance" are lacquered brass)

Lacquered Brass (including raw brass) may have some nickel-silver components, but entire horn is not plated
Silver Plated
Nickel Plated or Nickel Silver material (Typically Opera and some Studio and Special models in the 1970’s)
Gold Plated (rare)

6. Where is the most prominent location of the serial number?

2nd valve casing – right (leadpipe) side
2nd valve casing – left (bell) side
Somewhere else (please specify with a comment)

7. Are there other locations where the full or partial serial number is located?

valve piston spring barrels
top of the valve stems (under the cork)
underside of the top valve caps
last two digits of the serial number on the inside of the valve bottom caps
last two digits of the serial number on the inner slide tubes
other locations – please include in the comments
serial number is only on the second valve casing

Comments about the location(s) of the serial number

8. Key (the vast majority of Olds trumpets and cornets were made in the key of Bb. If you don't know, then leave blank or select Bb)

Bb
C (uncommon)
D (rare)
Eb (uncommon)
F (very rare)
G (very rare)

9. What is the material used to construct the balusters? (upper part of the outer valve casing)

All brass
Nickel-silver (brass on lower half of casing)
The horn is completely plated, so cannot determine
Plastic (Pinto)

10. Type of first slide adjustment mechanism

First slide adjustable saddle (or a bracket for one)
First slide fixed saddle (soldered in place)
First slide trigger
No first slide saddle or trigger

11. What is the Bore Marking? (typically only on very early instruments with serial numbers under 10000

SYM
No bore marking (typical)
M
Something else – please note in comments
LM

12. Comments about bore marking or bore size (if you are able to measure the bore size with calipers)

13. Which best describes the waterkey on the 3rd slide

The lever is operated under the slide (Ambassador models and a few others))
The lever is operated on the top side of the slide
The lever is operated on the side of the slide (trombone style -1940’s and older models)
The water key has been replaced with Amado or some other style

14. Which best describes the 3rd valve slide.

It has an adjustable push rod/finger ring (most models)
It has a spring loaded trigger (typically found on Recording and Mendez models)
The push rod/finger ring is missing, but there is bracket to allow for a push rod/finger ring
There is no method for adjusting the 3rd valve slide (typically only on early models or some cornets)

15. If there is something stamped or engraved on the mouthpiece receiver, or something else to describe your mouthpiece receiver?

Ultra Sonic engraved on the receiver
CHR – Custom High Range engraved on the receiver
L – Stamped on the receiver
S – Stamped on the receiver
SYM – Stamped on the receiver
Something else, describe in comments
No receiver, the mouthpiece inserts directly into a brass leadpipe (some Special models)
No receiver, the mouthpiece inserts directly in to a nickel-silver leadpipe (some Super Recording models)
Nothing engraved or stamped on the receiver

16. Check any features of this instrument

Third slide stop rod
Main tuning slide brace
Main tuning slide stop rod (or brackets for one)
Stop screw on first valve slide (some 1970’s pro models)
Hammered bell (rare and only on the very early models)
Stop screw on 3rd valve slide (some 1970’s pro models)

17. Which best describes the bell on your instrument?

The bell is all brass
It is a Super or Super Recording and has a Nickel-Silver Tone control band
The bell has a nickel-silver tube and a bronze flare (some Special models)
It is a Super or Super Recording and has a Brass Tone control band
The bell is made of Re-O-loy (gold brass, typically the Recording models, but also found on some early models)
The bell has a brass tube and a nickel-silver flare (some Studio models)
The bell is plated or made of the same as the rest of the instrument (Silver, Gold or Nickel)
None of these really fit so I’ll provide additional comments

Please provide any comments to clarify any of the responses above or to describe any unusual features/modifications that are not covered by the questions above

Please describe any interesting history about the instrument including any information about when it was purchased or manufactured.

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