Olds Register Los Angeles Form

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1. Serial Number (up to a 6 digit number) *

2. Instrument type (select one) Other brasses use a different form. *

• Trumpet – usually about 19 inches long
• Cornet – usually about 15 inches long

3. Model (select one only) Along with F.E. Olds & Son Los Angeles, the model. name is most often engraved on the top of the bell flare. *

• Ambassador Model
• Special model
• Super model
• Recording model
• Studio model
• Standard model
• Super Recording model
• Mendez model
• “The Olds” (the original model dating from 1929)
• French model
• Military model
• Radio model
• Aida Studio Model (Herald)
• Symphony model
• Other – some US Military issue instruments did not have model names. Please include comments

If your instrument is NOT one of the listed models, please provide more information here.

The remaining questions are optional, so if you do not want to provide more detailed information, you can go to the bottom of the form and submit, or you can fill out one or more of the remaining questions if you are able to provide additional information. Either way, THANK YOU for participating!

• I’ll provide more information
• I’m done and ready to submit (go to the bottom of the form)

4. FINISH of the instrument

• Lacquered Brass (including raw brass) may have some nickel-silver components, but entire horn is not plated. Just because your instrument is “gold colored” doesn’t mean it is gold plated. It is very likely lacquered brass. Select this if you are not sure.
• Silver Plated
• Gold Plated (rare) If your instrument is “gold colored” it is likely lacquered brass.

5. What is the material used to construct the balusters? (upper part of the outer valve casing)

• All brass
• Nickel-silver (brass on lower half of casing)
• The horn is completely plated, so cannot determine

6. Which best describes the bell on your instrument?

• The bell is all brass
• It is a Super or Super Recording and has a Nickel-Silver Tone control band
• It is a Super or Super Recording and has a Brass Tone control band
• The bell is made of Re-O-loy (red brass, typically the Recording models, but also found on some early models)
• The bell has a brass tube and a nickel-silver flare (some Studio models)
• The bell is plated or made of the same as the rest of the instrument (Silver or Gold)
• None of these really fit so I’ll provide additional comments

7. Select all features that apply to your instrument. Click on the photo to select a feature.

• First valve slide saddle (or bracket for one)
• Third valve slide stop rod
• Main tuning slide brace
• Main tuning slide stop rod (or brackets for one)
• Hammered bell (rare and only on the very early models)
• Spring loaded first valve slide trigger (typically on the Mendez model)

8. Which best describes the waterkey on the 3rd valve slide (please note this question is only about the 3rd valve slide, NOT the tuning slide. Many models have a trombone waterkey on the tuning slide, but only older models will have this on the 3rd valve slide) Click on one photo.

• There is not a water key on the 3rd valve slide (very early models and some cornets)
• The lever is operated on the side of the slide (trombone style -1940’s and older models)
• The lever is operated from the top side of the slide
• The lever is operated from the bottom of the slide (usually only the Ambassador model)

9. Which best describes the 3rd valve slide.

• It has an adjustable push rod/finger ring or a bracket for one (most models)
• It has a spring loaded trigger (typically found on Recording and Mendez models)
• There is no method for adjusting the 3rd valve slide (some early models and some cornets; there may be a bracket for a lyre, but is not on a part of the slide that is removable)

10. The mouthpiece receiver is a three to five inch piece where the mouthpiece is inserted. If there is something stamped or engraved on the mouthpiece receiver, or something else to describe your mouthpiece receiver? Select one photo.

• The receiver is a separate part and there is nothing engraved or stamped on the receiver.
• No receiver, the mouthpiece inserts directly into a brass leadpipe (some Special models)
• Nickel-Silver sleeve. Most of the receiver and entire mouthpipe are covered by nickel silver sleeve (some Super Recording models)
• L – Stamped on the receiver
• S – Stamped on the receiver
• Something else, describe in comments

11. What are all locations where the full or partial serial number is located? Click on all applicable photos.

• on the second valve casing below the leadpipe
• on the left side of the valve casing (typically only Mendez models in the Los Angeles era)
• on the lower part of the second valve casing (very early models only)
• valve piston spring barrels
• top of the valve stems (under the cork)
• underside of the top valve caps
• last two digits of the serial number on the inside of the valve bottom caps
• last two digits of the serial number on the inner slide tubes
• on the bell (rare – some US Military instruments)
• other locations – please include in the comments

Comments about the location(s) of the serial number

12. What is the Bore Marking? (found on the left side of the valve casing, typically only on very early instruments with serial numbers under 10000. May be on the right side on very early models) Select one photo.

• No bore marking (typical)
• SYM bore mark
• M Bore mark
• LM Bore mark
• LLM Bore mark
• L Bore mark
• Something else – please note in comments

13. Comments about bore marking or bore size (if you are able to measure the bore size with calipers)

Please provide any comments to clarify any of the responses above or to describe any unusual features/modifications that are not covered by the questions above

Please describe any interesting history about the instrument including any information about when it was purchased or manufactured.

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